


Weinberg talks to other Seattle superheroes, instead, who all voice their hatred for Jones.

If the first few episodes are any indication, at least, Weinberg and Jones spend much of their time at arm’s length, unsure of how much they can trust each another.Įarly on, for example, we hear Weinberg travel to Seattle to meet Jones, only for Jones to ghost him upon arrival. Weinberg notes that many of the people who have previously covered the Phoenix Jones beat have dressed up in costumes and fought crimes alongside him – “I think there’s something about certain journalists who are drawn to this, maybe,” he smiles, wryly – whereas there’s something of an uncertain tone about his particular investigation. It is this distance between host and subject that makes The Superhero Complex so compelling. I wanted to explore this world because it was new to me, and I didn’t have any preconceived ideas about it”. I didn’t know anything about real-life superheroes and that excited me. “They were like: ‘You wanna host this podcast about Phoenix Jones?’ And I was like, ‘Who’s Phoenix Jones?’ I never knew anything about him. “I got an email from (podcast producers) Novel,” he says. It all just feels very formulaic.”īut, despite Weinberg’s ambivalence towards superheroes in general, even he could see that Jones’s story had the potential to be fascinating. It’s like, ‘I know who’s gonna win this fight’. Growing up I didn’t really care for the Marvel movies. “I’ve been dreading having to say this in public”, says its creator David Weinberg over Zoom from his loft in Los Angeles. ‘He’s so charismatic that he won me over’ … Phoenix Jones speaks to reporters in 2011.
